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	<title>Comments on: Dear Google: FriendFeed Subscribers do NOT equal Blog Readers</title>
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		<title>By: Stephen Webb</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmaven.com/2010/04/blog-engagement-feedburner-friendfeed.html/comment-page-1#comment-590</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 07:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As someone who regularly uses Feedburner it is interesting to see these criticisms of the technology, as it is something I haven’t really given much through to previously. 

Having used Feedburner in conjunction with Google Analytics it is quite worrying to see that whilst Analytics provides an accurate reflection of site usage, Feedburner can be manipulated in such a way.

I will be interested to see other users comments regarding this and how they feel Google will progress with its development. Clearly there is a serious issue here that needs to be addressed, as having the raw data manipulated in such ways leads to a variety of serious implications.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who regularly uses Feedburner it is interesting to see these criticisms of the technology, as it is something I haven’t really given much through to previously. </p>
<p>Having used Feedburner in conjunction with Google Analytics it is quite worrying to see that whilst Analytics provides an accurate reflection of site usage, Feedburner can be manipulated in such a way.</p>
<p>I will be interested to see other users comments regarding this and how they feel Google will progress with its development. Clearly there is a serious issue here that needs to be addressed, as having the raw data manipulated in such ways leads to a variety of serious implications.</p>
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		<title>By: Best 10 Link Building and Web Traffic Articles at MMO Social Network</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 17:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gail from GrowMap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gail from GrowMap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 22:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Scott  I don&#039;t really understand why you don&#039;t think reading a blog at FriendFeed instead of in an RSS reader &quot;counts&quot;. I read a lot more blogs there regularly than I ever did in my reader. As Kristi mentions, many people either have far too many subscriptions (or in my case are just plain too busy with higher priorities) to actually read the blogs to which we subscribe.

Louis Gray is probably the only one I know who (last I heard) definitely reads everything in his reader. Some of us rely more on CommentLuv these days to make sure we don&#039;t miss anything important than we use our custom AllTop page, readers or FriendFeed. Why is explained in the post I&#039;ve linked to this comment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Scott  I don&#8217;t really understand why you don&#8217;t think reading a blog at FriendFeed instead of in an RSS reader &#8220;counts&#8221;. I read a lot more blogs there regularly than I ever did in my reader. As Kristi mentions, many people either have far too many subscriptions (or in my case are just plain too busy with higher priorities) to actually read the blogs to which we subscribe.</p>
<p>Louis Gray is probably the only one I know who (last I heard) definitely reads everything in his reader. Some of us rely more on CommentLuv these days to make sure we don&#8217;t miss anything important than we use our custom AllTop page, readers or FriendFeed. Why is explained in the post I&#8217;ve linked to this comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 22:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@kristi Great point on the subscription exchanges - I had forgotten those exist.  

@gail - Agreed on those filtering options - too bad that RSS readers like Google Reader don&#039;t just build in &quot;modes&quot; that let you flip between different feed banks.  Interesting idea.  

@kristi and @gail - here&#039;s the thing.  There is nothing wrong with FriendFeed numbers TAKEN FOR WHAT THEY ARE.  But as soon as Google imports the feed counts and displays them as &quot;Readers&quot; in a blog chicklet with the &quot;feedburner&quot; brand attached, I get all grumpy about it.

I appreciate your comments a lot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kristi Great point on the subscription exchanges &#8211; I had forgotten those exist.  </p>
<p>@gail &#8211; Agreed on those filtering options &#8211; too bad that RSS readers like Google Reader don&#8217;t just build in &#8220;modes&#8221; that let you flip between different feed banks.  Interesting idea.  </p>
<p>@kristi and @gail &#8211; here&#8217;s the thing.  There is nothing wrong with FriendFeed numbers TAKEN FOR WHAT THEY ARE.  But as soon as Google imports the feed counts and displays them as &#8220;Readers&#8221; in a blog chicklet with the &#8220;feedburner&#8221; brand attached, I get all grumpy about it.</p>
<p>I appreciate your comments a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Gail from GrowMap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gail from GrowMap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wouldn&#039;t be holding my breath waiting for any changes soon. Before they sold out, I was a very regular user of FriendFeed and subscribers there are more likely to read your latest content (and any older content you choose to share or that still receives comments) than your RSS readers are!

I still choose to use FriendFeed when I want to read the latest content written by bloggers I am particularly interested in. I do this because you can filter your RSS subscriptions at FriendFeed using lists. 

In other words, you could have one list of all your must-read blogs and others for each niche you are involved in. If you have several blogs or a business plus outside interests this lets you focus on finding only what you want to read in that moment. 

You can also click on the RSS feed buttons in each FriendFeed user&#039;s profile to read the content from each specific feed. We all know bloggers with multiple blogs where we always read one of them, sometimes read another and never read the rest. FriendFeed makes it easy to do that quickly. 

I agree that trackbacks / pingbacks, RTs, comments and blogger interaction are much better measurements of a blogger&#039;s influence. I really like PostRank and expect it to continue to be very important; however, sometimes the posts with high numbers are less deserving than others with lower ratings.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be holding my breath waiting for any changes soon. Before they sold out, I was a very regular user of FriendFeed and subscribers there are more likely to read your latest content (and any older content you choose to share or that still receives comments) than your RSS readers are!</p>
<p>I still choose to use FriendFeed when I want to read the latest content written by bloggers I am particularly interested in. I do this because you can filter your RSS subscriptions at FriendFeed using lists. </p>
<p>In other words, you could have one list of all your must-read blogs and others for each niche you are involved in. If you have several blogs or a business plus outside interests this lets you focus on finding only what you want to read in that moment. </p>
<p>You can also click on the RSS feed buttons in each FriendFeed user&#8217;s profile to read the content from each specific feed. We all know bloggers with multiple blogs where we always read one of them, sometimes read another and never read the rest. FriendFeed makes it easy to do that quickly. </p>
<p>I agree that trackbacks / pingbacks, RTs, comments and blogger interaction are much better measurements of a blogger&#8217;s influence. I really like PostRank and expect it to continue to be very important; however, sometimes the posts with high numbers are less deserving than others with lower ratings.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with what your saying, but the truth is people can boost their subscription numbers in a variety of other ways that do not necessarily prove they have loyal readers, such as RSS subscription exchanges, subscribing to their own site using their own emails and various services, etc. Those methods take longer, but do pretty much the same thing.  

FriendFeed is importing your RSS feed which is then displayed to your FriendFeed subscribers, so technically FriendFeed subscribers are just as exposed to your feed as a subscriber in Google Reader, who can just as easily have so many feeds that they are missing your posts anyway.  

Your real engagement measurement is certainly more accurate, and should be more important to serious bloggers.  But in truth, anyone who is looking to make money off of their website from advertising needs to have those other stats - subscribers, hits, followers, etc. It really depends on the blogger&#039;s goals as to what is going to be more important.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with what your saying, but the truth is people can boost their subscription numbers in a variety of other ways that do not necessarily prove they have loyal readers, such as RSS subscription exchanges, subscribing to their own site using their own emails and various services, etc. Those methods take longer, but do pretty much the same thing.  </p>
<p>FriendFeed is importing your RSS feed which is then displayed to your FriendFeed subscribers, so technically FriendFeed subscribers are just as exposed to your feed as a subscriber in Google Reader, who can just as easily have so many feeds that they are missing your posts anyway.  </p>
<p>Your real engagement measurement is certainly more accurate, and should be more important to serious bloggers.  But in truth, anyone who is looking to make money off of their website from advertising needs to have those other stats &#8211; subscribers, hits, followers, etc. It really depends on the blogger&#8217;s goals as to what is going to be more important.</p>
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